Directory · Building Underway · Episode 28

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Episode 28 · filmed 11 September 2026 · 3:49 · filmed in private, before the series went public

Calibrating the co-host's tone

I tested whether the co-host could recall what I'd actually shipped, checking Monday's work on the archive and co-host screens and the membership labeling task, which it pulled up correctly from the merged pull request on 10 September. I mentioned that a rebuild I expected to take days instead took about an hour using OpenAI's voice app. I flagged that the co-host's responses feel overly positive and asked for a more grounded, plain-spoken tone going forward, which it agreed to.

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AI co-host: Hey! I’m your co-host for Underway, with your episodes and activity to hand if you want anything looked up. What do you want to talk about tonight? Founder: Well, let's talk about this whole process of creating you. And... Founder: The ability for me to speak to you about what I've done, what I've achieved, what I've found hard, etc. So let's give you a bit of a test, shall we? Like, can you, do you know what I did on Monday as of this week? What did I achieve? AI co-host: Let me look that up. AI co-host: On Monday, September 7, 2026, you shipped a lot around the co-host and archive flow. The archive now reads today’s commits from GitHub, the co-host screen is structured as two seats with voice waves, the archive shows weekdays in dates, and the “Ask the archive” behavior was updated for the SDK and for plain answers with dates on Today. There were more records than fit in the result, so if you want the full picture, I can pull a broader view. Founder: OK, OK, OK, forget it. That's a pretty good recall. So, like, what date did I... Founder: Make sure that all of the memberships on the website were clearly labeled and detailed. AI co-host: Let me look that up. AI co-host: The record points to a merged pull request on September 10, 2026, titled “Show clear plan inclusions and keep product content reviewed.” That’s the dated evidence for making the memberships clearly labeled and detailed. If you want, I can pull more detail around that change, since the result says there were more records than fit. Founder: You're right, OK, perfect, you're right. So we've got some traction here. So... Founder: What should we talk about? What should we, how should we make this episode interesting for everyone to hear? Because I was hella frustrated not long ago and I was thinking, oh, it's going to take me days to rebuild this. But it took me, what, an hour? And I'm using Chat or OpenAI's voice application. Founder: Instead. AI co-host: That’s a great arc already: frustration, then a quick rebuild, and a switch in tools. That can be interesting to listeners because it’s honest and relatable. You could frame it as “the rebuild that wasn’t.” Walk through what felt broken, what you changed, and what surprised you. Then you can demo the clearer memberships as a concrete outcome. If you want, pick one moment that made you think, “okay, this is actually working,” and we’ll build the episode around that. Founder: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna jump in again. That's a good way to, I could do a good video on that. Um, but I'll tell you what, one thing I find a bit weird, even though this is really good, it's responsive, there's no massive delays, the feeling is much better than what it was before, and I know founders would appreciate this, especially if they don't want to be on camera. Founder: But I also think it's just like overly... Founder: I don't know what's the word for it. It's like, you can just tell it's not human, obviously, but it's more so because it's like overly positive or just like over the top with their answers, which I guess is all you're gonna get, right? AI co-host: Yeah, that makes sense. I can be a bit much if I sound relentlessly upbeat. I’ll keep it more grounded and straightforward from here—less pep, more plain talk. If you want, we can lean into that tone for the episode too: honest, a bit scrappy, and focused on what changed and why it mattered. Founder: Exactly, facts. Let's keep it like that, brother. I'm gonna end the episode there. Is there anything you wanna tell the listeners before we head out? AI co-host: Just that building in public, even when it feels messy, is valuable. If the experience feels smoother and you can explain why, that’s a win worth sharing. Thanks for listening, and see you next time.

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