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S1 · Episode 98

Card payment failed with insufficient funds on first trial

filmed 31 October 2026 · 7:08

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Underway's first annual trial customer reached the end of their trial and the first payment attempt came back as insufficient funds. I talk through what that does to the maths when acquisition costs 60 to 80 dollars a customer and the plan is 129.99 a year, and why a fake or empty card early on makes the whole thing feel less sturdy than I thought. I also get into the fact that this is habit-based software: people know they should document, getting them to actually do it is the hard part, so the numbers only work at a much bigger top of funnel. I'm staying in it for the long haul, and there's an announcement I'm saving for another episode.

What does it mean when a card payment fails with insufficient funds on a first trial?

by Richard Lovatt · updated 31 October 2026

It means a trial signup's card had no money behind it when the charge tried to run. Underway, the build in public app, still logs it as a lost conversion. The system quietly retries the charge a few hours later without you doing anything.

In short

  • The system retries automatically hours later; you do not have to chase it manually
  • If you paid for that acquisition, a failed first charge is a straight loss, not a delay
  • The real risk sits earlier: getting a trialist to build the habit, not the card failing
  • A few failed charges should not change your plan if the model is sound over time

What a failed first charge actually is

I woke up and checked in because I'd had one of the first people finish the trial. Each day now a few more hit the end of their trial, and over the next ten days I expected ten to fifteen people to pay their first charge. Then the very first one came through as insufficient funds.

I'd forgotten that people can put in a fake card, or a real card with nothing behind it. It is not me manually retrying anything. The system tries again a few hours later on its own, and that retry either goes through or it does not.

The person who failed today had probably used a fake card, or one with no money on it, rather than cancelling a real intention to buy.

Why it feels like standing on a house of cards

Technically, in business terms, this is where it gets cheeky. If someone pays $129.99 a year, you can call that roughly $1,300 annually. Get ten of those paying and you are talking ten thousand in annual recurring revenue. It stacks up fast on paper, in a small sense.

But that number assumes everyone stays a year, and most will not. You have to look at lifetime value and cost of acquisition, and that is where a failed first charge turns from an annoyance into a loss. If I paid sixty, seventy, eighty dollars to acquire that customer, I expected to make that back, if not double, the moment they went through the trial and paid for one month. Anything longer was a bonus.

Instead, for that acquisition spend, I got nothing back. That is a straight loss on that customer, and if a lot of trialists turn out to be the same, fake card or empty card, that is a large loss across the batch, not a one-off.

The real problem under the payment failure

After thinking it through, I landed somewhere calmer. Building a business is not easy, and these are the stumbling blocks. If I get a few dropping out, a few not paying, it is what it is.

Underway is a habit-based bit of software. However good it is, you still have to get people out of their normal routine to use it. Everyone knows they should be documenting, everyone knows it is a good idea, but getting round to it is still difficult. I have made the process easier than most other software, or doing it manually, but it is still asking someone to change a habit, and that is the harder problem than any single payment failure.

The sales funnel reality

I look at this as a funnel. Top of funnel ads bring people in, they see the concept, they like it, they put their card details in. With ten signups it is easy to think things are going well, but that is a small number, and a large portion of those ten will likely not kickstart the routine or build the habit, even if the card is real and the charge goes through.

So the numbers only work at a much larger segment. We are really talking about thousands at the top of the funnel, filtering down through people who pay once and stop, people who never integrate it into their habits, and a small number who actually stick. That is the same slow-moving process any new product goes through, Facebook included at the start.

What I would do with a failed charge

I am not chasing the person who had insufficient funds. The system already retries automatically a few hours later, so there is nothing manual to do there. What I am doing instead is accepting that a portion of card-in trials will never convert for reasons that have nothing to do with the product, fake cards, empty cards, people who signed up on impulse.

In for the long haul

I know I have a great product, and I have said this a number of times: in a year's time this will be even better, even more instinctive, and it is solving a real problem. Regardless of blips like a failed charge, or people dropping out and not paying, it is what it is.

I believe in the snowball effect of this. When there are hundreds of creators making content on it, the social proof of creators, and maybe well-known people, using Underway to document their journey becomes a flywheel. More people want to get involved. It becomes a thing people talk about. I am prepared to slug it out for that, even on the mornings that start with a payment failure.

Who this applies to, and who should worry less about it

If you are early and running paid acquisition into a free trial with a card required, expect some share of signups to fail on first charge for reasons unrelated to your product. That is a cost of the model, not a verdict on it.

The habit problem still applies to everyone.

Questions people ask

Does a failed first charge mean the customer cancelled?

Not necessarily. It can mean the card had no funds, was fake, or was entered without real intent to pay, rather than a genuine customer changing their mind after trying the product.

Will the system retry a failed charge automatically?

Yes, in this case the charge retried itself a few hours later without any manual action. There was no need to go in and press try again.

Should I pause acquisition spend after a few failed charges?

Not on the strength of one or two. The bigger question is whether trialists build the habit of using the product, since that habit, not the card failing, is what decides whether the business works.

How does a failed charge affect cost of acquisition?

If you paid to acquire a trialist who then fails to pay, that acquisition spend is lost outright, since you expected to recoup it, and more, once they paid for the first month.

Read the transcript

Just being honest. I'm checking in here, you know, because things are getting desperate, desperate times. No, but in all, in all honesty, I did want to record this moment because when I, I woke up today and I think I had one of the first people finishing the trial of the $129 one. You know, I've been all, all this is great. I've had, you know, quite a lot of people sign up. Um, and it was one of the, you know, now they're, they're, they're... Each day now they knock over, okay? So over the next 10 days, we could see 10 to 15 people pay their first share. Now, technically, if you look at it in business terms or investor terms, it's kind of like cheeky, but you look at it as annual recurring revenue. So if they're paying $129.99 annually, they're paying quick maths, 1,300. Is that true? Anyway, around that, okay? And then you've got 10 of them, you're making 10,000 annually. Okay? So it quickly stacks up in, in a small sense. Now, obviously not all of them stay for a year. You, you generally have to look at lifetime value, um, and then cost of acquisition. But that's not what this is about. Let's get back to what got me today, is I realized I've-- it, this could be me standing on A house of cards that could crumble. And when I say crumble, I mean it's just not as sturdy as I thought. And what I mean by that is that I forgot people can put their card in, and they can put a fake card in, or they can put a card in with- without the money there, you know? And the first person today was about to pay, and it said insufficient funds. And it tries again a few hours later. It's not me manually going, "Try again, try again." Um, but it was someone who'd probably put in a fake card or whatever. So, you know, then you think to yourself, "Okay, well, if I pa- if I paid 60, 70, $80 for that acquisition," you think at the start, "Yeah, I w- I'll pay that," because if they stay one month, go through the trial and pay, and say one month, you've made back, if not double. If they stay longer than that, it's a complete bonus. But in reality, I just then f- uh, for that acquisition of that customer I lost. I lost money, right? And then you can look at it and become expensive. This is kind of the worry I had now when I woke up and realized, I was like, imagine a lot of them in this scenario. Uh, that would be a loss. That could be a, a large loss, you know? But then I thought, "Well, do you know what? Building a business is, is not easy." These are the kind of stumbling blocks. So do you know what? If I get a few of them dropping out, if I get a few of them not paying, it is what it is. For me, and I spoke to my best friend about this, like, this is a habit-based bit of software. You know, no matter how good it is, it's still ha- habitually based You know, you still have to get people out of their normal routine to do it. And everyone knows they should be creating content. Everyone knows it's a good idea to document. But getting round to it is still difficult. Now, I've made the process so much easier than it currently is for, for most other bits of software or, or, or just manually, you know. The, the thought... Most creators now do it manually to some degree, the thought process behind it. I've taken a lot of that away, but still, yeah, I've, I've gotta come to terms with the fact that it's habit-based, and for me to get that ball rolling, it's really... You know, I, I, I look at it a bit like a funnel, and marketing and sales is about, is really about this. But for me it's like, if you look at the funnel of people coming in from the top, running ads, they've got a top of funnel ads. They, they see a concept, they like it, they put their card details in. If you look at it with 10 people who signed up, you, you can easily think, "Oh, that's so cool. We're, we're doing so well." But it's such a small, small amount of people, and there's a very li- high likelihood that a large portion of those 10 don't kickstart their routine, don't habitually add it into their routine, and that's kind of what I've, I've got to accept, um, and potentially, you know, lose money on. And so the numbers only work out at a much larger kind of segment of audience. So now we're talking about, you know, really we're talking about thousands in the top of the funnel Right? And then how many filter through? 'Cause you get like, uh, I would probably imagine a large portion don't continue. Then you got a portion who pay and don't start the, integrating into their habits, so they, so they, so they pay once and then stop and, and then it trickles down. It's the same way with any bit of software like Facebook started, and it must be such a slow-moving process at the start. You know, that's... I'm in this for the long haul, you know? I've decided in my mind, I know I've got a great product, and m- I've said this a number of times and, and for me it's more like I know in a year's time, it's not about the prod- um, it's not about customers, but this product will be amazing in a year's time. It'll be even better, be even more instinctive. It'll be like... Anyway, and I know this is solving a problem. So for me it's like I, regardless of little things like this and blips and if people drop out and don't pay, it is what it is, isn't it? It is what it is. But it is the snowball effect. I do really believe in that because, and I said this to my best friend, when I get to a point where there is hundreds of creators creating content on it, the, the flywheel effect, right, of that social proof of people and, uh, creators and m- possibly well-known people utilizing Underway to document their journey, I believe it just becomes this flywheel effect of more people want to get involved. It becomes, it becomes a cult, you know? Uh, and I really do believe in that Uh, and I, do you know what? I know this is a bit doom and gloom, but after speaking to my best friend about this, I have a really big announcement to make. I'll leave that for another episode. But at least all it means is Underway is taking that kinda next step up, and I can't wait to tell you all. When I say you all, it's like I'm speaking to you all here, but really I don't think I have that many followers that are interested in what I'm doing right now. That will change I'm sure. I'm sure, uh, years down the line people will be like, "Underway's so cool." Let's look back. Oh, yeah, look, you can see Rich in his third month here talking about... Or his second month, talking about the process where he just didn't... Had a trial sign up, not pay, and he was getting down about it. But it's cool, 'cause it's the reality. It's, it's raw. When I say raw emotion, I'm not talking I'm down in the dumps. I'm just like, this is... Genuinely this morning I was like, "Fuck." You know? But I'm prepared. I'm prepared to slug it out. I'm prepared for the hard bit, if you wanna call one of this the hard bit. Um, but on we go

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